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Poster: Highwater_Henry Date: Aug 3, 2011 9:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Well guys, I've been listening to the Band Beyond Description since I was 16 (I'm 21 now), and still rather new to collecting shows and stuff. I value other Deadheads opinions and would like to know ur fav performances of specific songs. I don't mind if u answer with an "either/or". Here goes: Bertha, Promise Land, Scarlet>Fire, Franklin's, Morning Dew, Tennessee Jed, He's Gone, BIODTL, Big Railroad, Blow Away, China Cat, Greatest Story, Samson, New Minglewood, Uncle John's, Brown Eyed Women, Miss 1/2 Step. U don't have to answer all of em. I am also curious to learn what show was Brent's greatest performance. ANY replies would be greatly appreciated. I just need a few solid foundations to dive from, and into the sea of Dead that's floatin round here!

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Poster: turnphilup Date: Aug 4, 2011 7:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

After you listen to all of these recommendations, check this site and listen to all links within. J/k. Welcome to crazytown.

http://gratefuldeadprojects.com/Jam_Segments.html

I almost forgot this treasure trove of info. Light into Ashes blog.

http://deadessays.blogspot.com/



This post was modified by turnphilup on 2011-08-04 14:22:16

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Aug 4, 2011 5:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Promised Land - 1989-07-18 (may I use OMG!?)

Scarlet>Fire - 1978-02-05 (dicks picks 18), 1979-11-01 (Dicks Picks 13, tho available here) 1978-12-31, 1990-03-22

Morning Dew - OK, I'm a morning dew nut. So I could give ya 30 great ones if you want. I've been working on a database which is along the lines of what you're asking (great versions from a certain date(s)) This should get ya through the years a bit. My recent obsession is the 94 version, its just short of 14 minutes, which is LONG!
1972-10-18 (goes into an amazing playin!)
1972-12-31
1974-10-18
1977-05-08
1977-05-22 (Dick's Picks 3)
1978-04-15 (Only one of the year and it rocks! kinda short)
1985-11-02
1986-03-24
1987-09-18
1992-03-23
1994-03-37

He's Gone - 1985-06-30, 1984-03-31, 1973-02-28 (Dicks picks 28)

BIODTL - 1986-12-30 (the intro is like 30 beats long!), 1990-03-22, 1972-12-31

Big Railroad - 1981-05-16 (Dicks picks 13) and I heard one the other day from 1985-11-04 which i thought was good, though idk, only heard it once

Greatest Story -1972-08-27

New Minglewood - 1984-03-31, 1989-07-18, 1977-05-08

Brown Eyed Women - 1978-02-03 (DP 18), 1979-12-26

Miss 1/2 Step - 1977-09-03 (DP 15), this one is PERFECT

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Poster: mush72 Date: Aug 4, 2011 5:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Blow Away: Probably 7/7/89 JFK Stadium - Recently released as http://store.dead.net/1980s/philadelphia-1989-3cd1dvd

The whole 7/7/89 shows a fine example of Brent's work. I personally love his B3 work on Loser. Other's find 3/24/90 to be a better Loser. To each his own.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Aug 4, 2011 6:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

That quality of that 7/7/89 video is really stunning. The detail and the clarity is just top-notch. Not my favorite show by a long stretch, but one of my favorite videos for sure.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Aug 4, 2011 6:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Won't provide links to all these, but those I do I consider "must listens."

Bertha - 10/29/77 http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-10-29.sbd.miller.92085.sbeok.flac16

Promised Land - 73/11/11

Scarlet Fire - 5/21/77 (Dicks Picks Vol. 29), 5/13/77 http://www.archive.org/details/gd77-05-13.sbd.miller.9393.sbeok.shnf 9/11/82, 4/8/78


Franklin's - 77/04/23

Dew - 10/12/84 http://www.archive.org/details/gd84-10-12.sbd.clugston.5585.sbeok.shnf

BIODTL - No real opinion.

GSET - 9/28/72 http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-09-28.sbd.bill.12657.sbeok.shnf

Blow Away - Yes, please. Blow away and don't ever come back. Sorry. Hate this song.

China Cat - 2/24/74 http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-02-24.sbd.windsor.199.sbefail.shnf

UJB - See Augusta, Maine show (10/12/84)

BEW - 5/8/77,11/4/77

MS 1/2 Step - 11/6/77 http://www.archive.org/details/gd77-11-06.sbd.nawrocki.283.sbeok.shnf (Please trust me on this one--nothing else comes close...people will say 5/7/77, and it's good, but it's a distant second.)

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Aug 4, 2011 5:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Thanks for your DEW suggestion! I have yet to find a legendary version from 84 so I think this one makes the cut. It will likely be obsessed over for the next month or two if its as good as I think it is.

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Poster: sakanaband Date: Aug 5, 2011 8:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Wisconsin, if you are a Dew afficianado like me, you might like these lesser known, but spectacular versions:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1983-06-18.set2.senn441.silberman.miller.103293.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd88-06-23.sennheiser.ladner.17407.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-09-26.aud.unknown.willy.9418.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1970-11-08.aud.lee.pcrp.26975.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-09-16.matrix.sb20.chappell.77442.flac16

That oughta keep ya busy for a while! :) Not surpringly, these 'Dews' are all attached to pretty wonderful shows and at least a wild Set II. Happy listening.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Aug 5, 2011 12:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Killer!

I don't have any good dews from 83, 88 or 81 so this is great.

I've heard the 1970 version a few times and I agree, I think its quite good. Though I need to hear it more

I never thought too much of 1972-09-16. Prob heard it twice. I went through 72-74 and listened to every dew a while back taking notes and my notes for 9/16 read "Great '72 intro, Jerry just screamin. Good 1st jam, not amazing. 2nd jam is too short. Nice Dew but a bit dissapointing for sept. 72"

Will have to go back and check it out a few more times. Is this your fav. 72 dew? I think 1972-12-31 is likely thee best, textbook wise... But DP 36 (9/21), 10-18, 10-21, and 11-13 are all spectacular. And so far none from europe 72 have stuck out to me.

BTW, have you ever heard the 92 or 94 versions I suggested?

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Aug 5, 2011 1:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

"And so far none from europe 72 have stuck out to me."

Really?

I can't imagine how that could be...

Munich (5/18/72) has an etraordinarily beautiful performance of Morning Dew. Check out the lovely organ/piano interplay between Pig and Keith:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-05-18.sbd.miller.79057.sbeok.flac16

The following performance of the song in London is exceptional as well:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-05-23.sbd.cribbs.32863.sbeok.flac16

And of course the Morning Dew performed three nights later is arguably the greatest Dew of all-time:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-05-26.sbd.waddell.89641.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Aug 5, 2011 1:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Well I'd say part of it is that 72 is so good. And that there are so many world class dews performed this year that they get compared to their peers, not years like 80 or 88. They are certainly better than any I know from other years.

Having Pig and Keith on the stage adds a nice flavor to these dews that is never seen again. It, in a way, is the best of both worlds. Especially when they both play well. Which they seem to be doing during 5/26.

The 5/26 version has a few little flubs which are forgettable, but at a minimum when comparing perfect dews we should be pretty critical. Though I will say that the take off into the final jam starting with jerry's vocals is magnifico (or however you spell that). I think part of what makes this version not the best ever is the fact that it takes off too fast. I enjoy a good slow intro into morning dew that slowly builds. Kinda like 1979-11-08 (really short and rocking) vs. 1994-03-27 (really long, heartfelt AND rocking). This 5/26 version is very good but I disagree. At a minimum 9/21 and 12/31 trump this version, IMO.

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Poster: mklsgl Date: Aug 5, 2011 12:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

I'm partial to the 4/6/82 "Morning Dew." It's got that 'just exactly perfect' thing going on.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Aug 5, 2011 1:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

ya know I think 82 was a really great year for dews. Likely the best of the 80s as, Dew kinda peaked in 72. But for me its about whether its played well or not. I love the different sounds and instruments over the years.

This dew got five out of five and a half possible stars from me. I need to hear it a few times more though.

I dont think any solid judgement can be made about a song until its been listened to at least 2-4 times. Surely not after one listen.

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Aug 4, 2011 11:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

>Please trust me on this one--nothing else comes close...people will say 5/7/77, and it's good, but it's a distant second.

Sorry gc, I strongly disagree, the peaks are way higher on 5/7. Greatest Half-Step of all time. 11/6 to me just doesn't quite take off the way 5/7 does. Of course this just imho. I totally respect your opinion, and you've really helped me out when it comes to choosing later-era shows...I trust your reviews 100%.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Aug 4, 2011 5:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

And I think you're both wrong! hahah.

I love 1977-09-03, DP 15. LEGEND!

I recall 1977-05-07 being good, need a few more listens. And never heard 11/6...

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Aug 4, 2011 10:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

9/3 is excellent. Definitely ranks higher for me than 11/6 (which is very worth hearing too, it's just not my favorite). Like Cliff says, a big part of what's fun about all this to me is the subjectivity of the listener and comparing and contrasting our favorites...

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Aug 5, 2011 1:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

well playing wise... I really can't say which is better. But I wonder if its the lack of spring 77 sound that makes me prefer 9/3....

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Aug 5, 2011 6:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

No worries, Clem..we'll just agree to disagree.

That 5/7/77 half step is easily my 2nd favorite, but (and I doubt i'll be able to describe this correctly) the reason I think 11/6/77 is better has to do with the build-up/splash down of both major musical bridges, which come down so hard and definitively after the great runs by Jerry that it just seems to me the most powerful of all the Half Steps out there.

Also, Jerry nails all the lyrics. Ultimately, they're both great versions, with the unifying point being that 1977 RULES!

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Poster: chris in long beach Date: Aug 3, 2011 10:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

I'm sure you'll get plenty of great replies here, but you may want to check this site out as well: Heady Versions. People select their favorite versions of songs.

The only one I can comment on is Bertha. I have two favorites, and it's a tough choice...

I love the one from 08-06-74 because it's a bit funky, and I love the funk.

My other favorite is from 08-06/71. (August 8 must be a magic date for Berthas!)This one is a high energy rocker.

Enjoy :)

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Aug 4, 2011 7:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Totally non Dead but I was thinking about this on the "greatest performances" topic. I think Phil Collins at Live aid is one of the great underrated gems of all time. Was his work on the Zep reunion great? No, but let's take a look at what he did. Does a set in London, takes a concorde to Philly hours later and does another set there. Sits in with Clapton on drums and then oh yeah, has the "easy" task of replacing John Bonham in a moment all of Led Zep have been waiting for in front of the entire world no less. No pressure there. Almost 30 years ago. Man I'm getting old

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Aug 4, 2011 9:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Yeh I also was thinking non Dead all time best and for me it's
1. Jimi Hendrix---White Planes Civic Center 69
2.Pink floyd----Yankee Stadium 92?
3.Grateful Dead---Kesar Auditorium W/BG coming out w/ giant rolling skull/
4.Rolling Stones----Madison Sq Garden Aug71 Sticky Fingers
5.Bruce Springsteen---Berkley Comm. Theater 75
6.Stevie Ray Vaunghan----Kean C0llege 83?
And on it goes,many many more lots of individual band performances, way to many to list.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Aug 5, 2011 6:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Hey, I'm 21 too, been listening for about as long as you.

Scarlet>Fire: 2/3/79
Franklin's: 8/13/75
He's Gone: Any from fall '72 or early '73 (DP 28!!!)
BEW: 12/26/79 (DP5)
UJB: 9/27/72 (DP11)

Don't know if these are my _favorites_, they're just really strong ones that come to mind.

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Poster: musicphotos77 Date: Aug 5, 2011 9:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Miss Half step, I was at both these shows, have to call it a tie: 9/3/77, and 5/7/77. Here's the link to the photo of Jerry I took during that song:
www.archive.org/details/PhotoOfJerryGarcia5.7.77Boston

He's Gone , also at this show, 5/6/81, also a dicks pick, in memory of Bobby Sands

AM Dew, 4/27/77, always thought it stood out as they launch into an unusual high energy stompin' jam

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Aug 3, 2011 10:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Welcome!

That's quite a list there, but I think I might try to tackle it for you. This is the kind of thing that for me can vary from month to month or even week to week, but here goes:

Bertha: 10/29/77
Promised Land: 5/19/74
Scarlet>Fire: 4/24/78
Franklin's: 10/9/76 (Dick's Picks, vol. 33)
Morning Dew: 6/18/74
Tennessee Jed: 3/31/73
He's Gone: 2/28/73
BIODTL: 7/19/74
Big RXR Blues: easy! 2/26/73
Blow Away: sorry don't like this song
China Cat: hard, but also 5/19/74
Greatest Story: 8/27/72
Samson: 2/5/78: (DP 18 - 5 min. intro jam!)
Minglewood: The one on Ladies and Gentleman...don't know the date offhand, I think it's 4/29/71
Uncle John's: 11/11/73
BE Women: 5/28/77
Half-Step: 5/7/77



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Poster: Phlesh Wound Date: Aug 4, 2011 5:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite/Greatest Performances

Bertha - 71/08/06, 81/09/26, 91/09/19

Promised Land - 73/11/11, 77/12/29

Scarlet Fire - 77/05/08, 77/10/02, 78/02/05, 78/09/02, 81/10/19, 83/06/18, 83/10/14, 90/03/22

Franklin's - 77/04/23, 77/05/09, 77/06/09, 78/07/08, 79/10/27, 79/10/28

Dew - 70/05/02, 74/06/18, 77/05/08, 83/06/18, 87/09/18

BIODTL - 71/11/07

GSET - 72/08/27

Blow Away - 89/07/07, 90/03/16, 90/03/26

China Cat - 73/05/26, 74/05/19, 74/05/24, 74/08/05, 81/03/09, 90/09/20

UJB - 74/09/18

BEW - 77/05/08

MS 1/2 Step - 77/05/07, 77/09/03, 77/11/05, 77/11/06, 78/04/15, 79/10/28




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